Hi Everybody, Just as a matter of intrest Ally, I am an ex londoner, as a matter of fact used to hang out at the same Cafe as Paul did, altough we didnt relise that untell last year and I now live very close to you. Anyway I have nothing against anybody putting as much information as they can on this forum. When it comes to id cards im a bit sitting on the fence because i feel, well what the heck is your NI number if its not id, I know it is easy to get all the info on one person and take his identity, but feel it would still be done with the new cards and after all your passport carries your photo and it is the most forged document there is (as far as i know) I also understand that it is going to cost us £100 every 5 yrs (again from reading). I think the point that Paul was making is that we should all be there for one another as far as helping out if we can. Such as you and I, if one of our number had to travel from Manchester or Leeds/Bradford for some reason but had to travel a long way the day before we could find them lodgings, if we didn't have the room to put them up. This is only my personal point of view and i do hope that it is not taken the wrong way by anybody or does not cause any afence.

Hi Tracey and Viv

     Well put ladys, my english was never no good at scool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Exactly what I was trying to say without winding anyone up.

             Paul/Deb5