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Title: Brexit
Post by: MicK-G on June 24, 2016, 11:40:17 AM
Personally I'm gutted, I think we've got a very difficult 10 years ahead of us.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: TerryW on June 24, 2016, 11:52:28 AM
I agree Mick, I am completely gutted as well. There are none so blind as those who don't want to see.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Truth on June 24, 2016, 12:35:19 PM
I will third that . I almost feel like it is a self inflicted recession we are going to go into BUT that's my opinion and the electorate did not agree with me.......
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: harold on June 24, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
4th that
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MicK-G on June 24, 2016, 01:07:21 PM
I've been trying to see what the exchange rate is but all the currency sites have crashed.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: jackson on June 24, 2016, 02:02:11 PM
How many will say in the future if indeed it all goes wrong that they actually voted the opposite way as they generally do when they realise the have made a catastrophic mistake
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: intentioncraft on June 24, 2016, 03:37:10 PM
It's now a brave new world and we're all in it together,I think we will eventually look back and history will record a righteous decision,a great legacy for our children and there direct prosperity.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Truth on June 24, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
That's what we all hope (and you could well be right) but try telling the people that will suffer for the next few years to "hang on in there , its going to get better!" .
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: TerryW on June 24, 2016, 04:14:04 PM
We will look back when pensions are down, interest rates are high, workers rights are diminished, unemployment rises, our grandchildren can't get jobs, the UK has been dismantled, and  holidays in Europe are too expensive and think how did so many gullible people vote to leave and cause misery for the rest of us. A very sad day.

The immediate downside is that we will have less money to spend in Arillas, which won't help the Greek economy either.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: davejayne on June 24, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
what about the 27.7% who could not be assed to vote why not vent anger at them for not making a difference.
the reason we have left the EU is we have the right to vote as we see fit. they have voted which ever way because  thats what they beleave
thats what happens in a Democratic free country and we still are. the door was open we walked through it now we have to deal with it together.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Steph ~ on June 24, 2016, 04:43:14 PM
Quick query, is anyone on here of the age for experiencing life/work etc before the UK joined the EU in 1975?  Just interested as to how life (health, work, benefits, security etc) has changed since then - and did that affect how you voted?   At that referendum, turnout was 65% with 67% in favour of joining.   
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: intentioncraft on June 24, 2016, 07:05:46 PM
Direct your vitriol at the alleged 80% housing estate residence,who in every other election numbered only 30% , ...ask them why they voted to leave,with few exceptions the answer will be immigration,ask them to bullet point any other debatable agenda regarding the referendum,the typical answer will be to take back control from a broken and antiquated system of government,I'm the first to concede that the alternative does not in the short term look appealing,but, the global economy now beckons,we are not a third world nation and will equally prosper as well as any leading industrial economy,the world will now come knocking on our door,and besides there always Skegness!
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: harold on June 24, 2016, 07:25:08 PM
i voted in the referendem over joining the EU and voted against Joining,but since we have been in i have voted to stay both times now we have had the chance to vote.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: NickBoardman on June 24, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
We will look back when pensions are down, interest rates are high, workers rights are diminished, unemployment rises, our grandchildren can't get jobs, the UK has been dismantled, and  holidays in Europe are too expensive and think how did so many gullible people vote to leave and cause misery for the rest of us. A very sad day.

The immediate downside is that we will have less money to spend in Arillas, which won't help the Greek economy either.

Nothing to add...Well said!
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: billyd on June 24, 2016, 11:28:53 PM
Well said Terry can't agree more! The only good thing is we get rid of one twit, with the possibility of having an ever bigger twit in charge. To answer a question from previous, I was around prior to the 1975 era. We had 3 day weeks guzzumping in the housing market and endless strikes. But it never seems that bad when you look back.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MicK-G on June 25, 2016, 02:52:04 AM
I was at a Paul Heaton gig tonight and he said lets boo the millions who didn't vote. He the said "We're British, we're programmed to fuck up a good thing? Sorry for the swearing but I have to agree with him.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 25, 2016, 08:49:09 AM
i voted in the referendem over joining the EU and voted against Joining,but since we have been in i have voted to stay both times now we have had the chance to vote.

Hi

We never had a referendum to join the EU. Ted Heath just took us in. The first referendum we had in 1975 and the second in 2016.

Geoff
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 25, 2016, 09:45:34 AM
Hi Harold
Sorry I should have said in the 1975 referendum   Harold Wilson gave us the opportunity to leave the then EEC, as we were already in, The only vote we have ever had to leave was in 2016.
Geoff
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 25, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Quick query, is anyone on here of the age for experiencing life/work etc before the UK joined the EU in 1975?  Just interested as to how life (health, work, benefits, security etc) has changed since then - and did that affect how you voted?   At that referendum, turnout was 65% with 67% in favour of joining.

Hi
We joined the then EEC in 1973 and there was no referendum. The first referendum was in 1975 to vote whether to remain.

Geoff
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Val n Bill on June 25, 2016, 11:15:11 AM

Just read in the Mail that the mayor of Calais has called for the migrant camps to be moved to Britain as Brexit vote scuppered the border deal with France.

  Val x
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 25, 2016, 11:59:33 AM
Hi
The agreement re our border in Calais, is a bi lateral agreement with France, and nothing to do with the EU. I believe it has a number of years before it can be changed.
France wanted our help on this as even more immigrants  entering Europe would travel through France and end up in Calais seeing it as route to GB.
Without it Calais would even have more of a problem as other European countries do not offer asylum as they should under EU rules. That is, every immigrant should be offered asylum in the first country they enter into Europe.
They don't generally do this and allow free passage throughout Europe, this  allows them to travel throughout France to Calais.
Geoff
 
 
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Truth on June 25, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
I was at a Paul Heaton gig tonight and he said lets boo the millions who didn't vote. He the said "We're British, we're programmed to f@@@ up a good thing? Sorry for the swearing but I have to agree with him.
Heaton is class (seen him live loads of times) but never really agreed with his political views. I agree totally with him on this though.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 25, 2016, 04:20:41 PM
I was at a Paul Heaton gig tonight and he said lets boo the millions who didn't vote. He the said "We're British, we're programmed to f@@@ up a good thing? Sorry for the swearing but I have to agree with him.
Heaton is class (seen him live loads of times) but never really agreed with his political views. I agree totally with him on this though.

I think you should consider that politicians in Netherlands, France and Italy are pushing their  goverments for referendums to leave.

Since our vote borrowing costs  have  gone up in Italy, Spain,Portugal and Greece.
Stock markets in Frankfurt, Paris, and Milan fell up to more than 4 times than ours due to the fear that more referendums will be demanded to leave.
Unlike our vote where the majority of voters were of the older generation, in the aforementioned countries, it is the youth who are discontented, due mainly  to 50% plus unemployment levels.
It is the young generation voting for extreme political groups within Europe as they are fed up with their countries leaders.Look at the political party who nearly took control of  Austria a few weeks ago.
The European banking system, particularly in Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece are in dire straights
The EU dream will fail, not just because we are to leave, but because it does not work. Throughout Europe  discontent of being controlled by an elitist group of 27 unelected  members of the EU  commission will bring it down.

27 into 1 will not work. The EU has never been about trade but political power.

Sorry about going on, but I feel proud of being English and a part of Great Britain.
Geoff
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Truth on June 25, 2016, 05:09:27 PM
I too am a very proud Englishman and my comment was made because I am also the ultimate pessimist (aswell as being said a little tongue in cheek)! Lol . We clearly don't f*** everything up
Thanks for the info Turkeyfoot, I knew Frances Le Penn wants out of Europe (even though she is not actually in power) but I didn't know about the others.
Ultimately we just HAVE to get on with it now anyway ......
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: JohnTheRef&Dot on June 25, 2016, 07:30:48 PM
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Perhaps the discussion on this topic should be made in an appropriate place as it is totally inappropriate for this forum.
I was under the impression that this Forum was to help Promote Arillas and not the outcome of a Referendum vote on the United Kingdom  being
IN or OUT Europe
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Paul & Denise on June 25, 2016, 08:47:09 PM
19 days!! that has come round quick John have a great time once again.
As interesting as some of this information is, I agree let's make this a soapbox free Forum

Yammas
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: intentioncraft on June 25, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Ah Mr Referee,an appropriate time to blow your whistle,fear of the unknown does tend to stir the blood,accept my sincere apology for posting non related comments on this wonderful site😇
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 25, 2016, 10:13:23 PM
Hi
I too apologise for getting on my high horse re the EU. I just cant help it
As you may guess I voted out
Geoff
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Truth on June 25, 2016, 10:43:20 PM
The thread just needs to be moved to "General Chat" I think as thats what it is....
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MicK-G on June 26, 2016, 03:23:05 PM
I was tired and emotional when I started this chat, to be honest I'd intended to post it in general chat. My intention wasn't to discuss the rights or wrongs of the referendum, that's happened and we have to live with it. My intention was how will this affect the British visitors to Arillas? I have a dream, when I retire I like the idea of being one of the people who spends their summers in Arillas. I now have real doubts about whether this is feasible. I visited Arillas shortly after the banking crisis and believe it affect my holiday negatively as everything was expensive due to the weak pound and people were worried. When the pound is weak all inclusive holidays are more attracrive and this could negatively affect Arillas. I know it isn't only Brits who go there, it's part of the attraction for me, I love meeting people from other countries and cultures.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: turkeyfoot on June 26, 2016, 04:23:41 PM
Hi
Sorry I could not resist. My final comment no matter what. Unless the topic moves to general discussion lol.
I quote from one of the worlds greatest statesmen and one of Great Britain greatest Prime Ministers,

'' We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea''

Geoff
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MicK-G on June 26, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
I don't wish to be pedantic but that is a misquote, the first part was part of a speech Churchill made in America, the final sentence was something Churchill shouted at De Gaulle during a row around 25 years later in 1944.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: justphil on June 26, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
The only issue here is that Arillas General Information should be restricted to Arillas topics so this discussion does not fit. It should be General Chat and other Gossips - maybe dear Dimitris will move it there and let the discussion continue amongst members. We are all in denial right now. Nobody really knows what is going to happen. But personally, I just want to ignore as much as possible and continue my dream of spending many months in Arillas.

Phil
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: intentioncraft on June 26, 2016, 07:45:20 PM
Any one had any dealings with so called BIG AL,the guy posts tutorial vids on YouTube, I am considering seeking his advise on property matters in Corfu,any comments regarding his integrity!