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Title: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: TerryW on August 30, 2011, 12:06:04 AM
My son and his family loved Arillas but they had one problem that prevented them from using the beach as much as they would have liked to have done.

I had told them about the nudist beaches but they said that people were naked almost up to the part of the beach opposite to Kaloudis. On the morning they were picked up  to go back to the airport a naked man was clearly visible from the coach. I am sure other forum members would have seen similar in August and I was wondering if this was a common occurrence. 

I am amazed, that if this happens regularly in August, that there haven't been official complaints. When we were regular visitors to Skala in Kefalonia, a similar situation arose and the nudist "beach" kept getting closer to the main beach. One day the police raided the beach and arrested some of the nude sun bathers.

Because there are no "official" nudist beaches in Greece it has been left to the discretion of the local people to accept the beach and also to hope that naturists are sensible where they take their clothes off.

Maybe a solution would be a sign as this would put down a marker and people with young children would not have to leave the beach.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/content/images/2007/11/09/nudist_sign_203x152.jpg)

Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: justphil on August 30, 2011, 12:32:18 AM
Tough one Terry.

The unofficial but accepted stuff on our beach is that it's naturist after the rock outcrop. Mostly you have to wade round it. But Dimitris posted today or yesterday that you can now walk there without wading. Such bl**dy good news about the beach but it all seems to have got lost.

I have a problem with all of this. Arillas provides a perfect beach, bucket and spade children's holiday with shallow sea, workable sand, refreshments (forget donut man - total abberation) and naturists can stay at far north/south end and worship the sun, sand and sea. It is a mile long. There is room for eveyone. Including me, naked and behind my big rock at the far North end. But in the middle, by the jetty and to the south past Graziella, there is plenty of room for everyone. Textile, naturist, man, woman, Greek, Italian, German... everyone. That is the point of Arillas, and why I am so besotted. We can only have our little bit of it all. The rest belongs to someone else.

Phil
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Jo Wissett on August 30, 2011, 12:47:14 AM
I definitely think the man was out of order and I speak as someone who uses the beach and loves it. There is definitely a time and a place though and in my experience I have only seen nudists at the very far end where the beach is a wide expanse past at least 3 jutting rocks and a good 5-10 mins away from kaloudis steps
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: justphil on August 30, 2011, 12:56:59 AM
Agree Jo meluvver. It would be quite wrong to see naturists all over the beach. 3 rocks from the sun sounds good to me. Isn't that the point? The far North/South ends for the unclothed, but plenty of safe space in between for everyone else. Live and let live. The spirit of our Arillas.

So sad for you back in Blighty. Like me, work tomorrow and deep depression.

Phil
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Eggy on August 30, 2011, 09:25:24 AM
Maybe a point all guests / holidaymakers can raise when they fill in their -
"Arillas Tourism Questionanaire"

Negg
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: vivian on August 30, 2011, 12:45:53 PM
When I first decoverd the nuddie beach,apart from the fact that Dimitri's Grandmother would have chased me with her walking stick, Norm & Sandy posted this to me so please stay aware of it and dont spoil it for everybody else (not only that we could end up without any part of the beach.)


hi ya
as the others have said there is a nudist beach and yes i have been on it,but you must remember that the greek people are a little bit reserved when it comes to people baring all and i do advise you that you must keep to the far end or you could offened the locals, other than that they tend to turn a blind eye if its not in there face(excuse the pun)but it is against the law if it is not an official nudist beach which im affraid it is,nt
i have seen two british girls arrested a couple of yrs ago for baring to much too near to the central beach.
might see you there take care
norm&sandy
 





Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Gotty & Liz on August 30, 2011, 01:01:31 PM
Let see the positive side of the thing.

Now in Arillas you can do "bird watching" for free....
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Eggy on August 30, 2011, 06:45:04 PM
i have seen two british girls arrested a couple of yrs ago for baring to much too near to the central beach.

I was arrested once and taken to court. Case dismissed - not enough evidence.
(Well , I had just come out of the cold sea)
Hmmmm!

Get these questionaires filled out people and make you views known.Never alienate those who follow the local flexible guidelines.
It's never been a problem in the past.

"Bird Watching" for free Gotty? - I think there may be many "big birds" out there to watch them all - Maybe an Ouzo instead! - Now that makes sense!
Priotities first - ( Two ouzos and I see double! - Aaaaarrrgh! )
Negg

Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Ang on August 30, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
The North Beach has been where it has been since before all of our time - Ive read somewhere it kind of became adopted by naturists during the 70's, I could be wrong, so maybe all it needs is for some to gently remind others where the line stands!!..you really cant put up signs when its an illegal activity - which is not really policed monitored or observerd and for very good reasons - I keep hearing that we dont want to change Arillas - well keep that in mind all.

Me im not bothered either way im happy to wander off down to the north end just because I like to walk one end to the other, love walking through the sea to get there, sometimes I enjoy a bit of peace, tranquility and just sit and watch the waves and sink my feet in the soft wet sand..... Im probably the odd one out- got a wraparound on or shorts and top -  but I dont care - what I did always absolutaly adore was a swim eu natural , must try and come back late season when the sea has warmed up - ah memories.
Angx

Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Mick and Jill on August 31, 2011, 02:50:02 PM
When we were there in June there was naturists by the Kaloudis steps, seen a few families move because of this.  As Phil said there is plenty of beach along at the North end which has always been used.  One guy was in the water just standing with his wares on show just dangling above the water line, is there any need for this, I don't think so.  There is plenty of beach for everyone and have not noticed this in previous years.

Will mention it on the questionnaire as Neill suggested when we go in September.

Jill x
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: justphil on August 31, 2011, 06:29:09 PM
In case I was misunderstood, I agree wholeheartedly that the naturists should stay beyond the rock outcrop. Exhibitionists are best ignored - they quickly lose interest. But above all, the other areas shoudn't have to endure offence or embarassment. We can't have signs, but maybe we should become a bit more assertive explaining the unwritten rules to any who breach them.

Phil
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Mick and Jill on August 31, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
Phil I'm sure in June some nudists were chased by a Greek guy from the South Beach.  I agree whole heartedly if people enjoy it they should do it with out embarrassment for both themselves and other people on the beach and this is so easily done by them going to the appropriate place

Jill xx
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: vivian on August 31, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
Well said Jill, in 2004 Dimitri's told me the north end had been used by naturist for 30 years
and not botherd anybody and nobody had botherd them. As Phil says the few exhibitionist will soon get fed up if ignored, the only thing is it only takes a few to spoil it all, and I think they should be told nicely but firmly by us to please go right tothe north beyond the rock crop. Viv
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: TONYNEW on August 31, 2011, 08:55:58 PM
I have to say when we were there the last 2 weeks we didn't see any nudists stray further than the little outcrop and we were on the bit of beach next to the nudist beach, the bit where the donkey track looks like its gonna give way at any moment infact there were a coupple of small rock falls while we were on the beach causing a cloud of dust
Phil the beach was getting bigger by the day and you could walk on sand to the nudy beach not sure if you can make it out on this pic but its deffo there as is the ather large fissure in the rock at the side of the donkey track lol
Tony
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Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: andyandali on August 31, 2011, 11:24:52 PM
We first went to Arillas in 1983 and yes there were nudists on the north end beach but this never bothered us then or now. We went nude for the first time this year and its great. Yes maybe a sign would be a good idea but alot of us are regular visitors so we all know who is wher,nude or not. Live and let live!!
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: ness44 on September 01, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
I think it peoples own choice if they go nude but not every parent wants their children to be exposed to naked bodies. My daughter is 13 and i would not pleased if we went to the beach and she had to see naked men.
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Cheryl2307 on September 01, 2011, 04:04:55 PM
It's all about respect and consideration, I think.  Nude sunbathing is not for me but each to their own as long as it causes no offence.  To be honest, travelling with teenagers, I also find the topless sunbathing round the pool a bit much sometimes, I'm not a prude but you don't know where to look at times.  A place for everything and everything in it's place!
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Atalanta on September 01, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
Women who bathe topless IN the pool show disrespect for other guests.

At least the nudist beach is known as such and people who want to strip off and be "watched" can do so without offending anyone else.

Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: NicandJohn on September 01, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
Around the pool the lowest I go is a vest and shorts, Nic sticks to the full bikini.
On the beach I'm not only a naked sunbather but a naked snorkeller too! I tend to feel there is much more privacy naked on the beach where your nearest neighbour may be 30-50 yards away, than there is clothed at the pool where others are 4-6 feet away.
I think if anybody is going to the nudist beach to "be watched" they need a little help!
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Paul D on September 01, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
Seems like this topic has stirred peoples` feelings!
  Let me say from the start, I totally agree there is no need for people to encroach on the main part of the beach, if they strip off.  There is plenty of room at the north end.
 As for all the people we have met on the north end, I really think that they do so for the enjoyment they get from being nude and certainly do not go there to be `watched`.
  Some might find that remark offensive!!

As has been said, many wander along to have a walk, and we have no, problem with that but sometimes you see the same faces wandering back and forth all day. To them I say, get a life.
 Maybe you should give it a try before offering an opinion.
It's all about respect and consideration, I think.
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: patrickjohn on September 01, 2011, 10:59:19 PM
I think Paul has said it all and I like his suggestion that more enlightened opinions might be offered if folk tried sun & sea bathing as nature intended.
PJ
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Atalanta on September 01, 2011, 11:32:18 PM
Would someone like to compile a guide on "Naturist Beach Etiquette"

There seems to be a feeling that the North End of the beach is for the sole use of naturists and other users are there to admire the view.

Any person who takes their clothes off on any part of the beach and thinks that no-one is watching has to be very naive.

What I find disingenuous is the desire to respect the "locals" attitudes towards the practise but to deride anyone else's objections and to suggest that they need enlightening!

Live and let live ....Get a life ......

Why would it be necessary to try before offering an opinion?

Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Ang on September 01, 2011, 11:55:56 PM
Oh Im hoping the tide comes back in!! or we will all be getting on that Bus ride again
Ang
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Mick and Jill on September 02, 2011, 01:14:09 AM
Paul don't think we need to try it before we can offer an opinion and as for get a life a lot of people do like to walk from one end of the beach to the other, that is something they enjoy. 

We have all said each to their own but there is a time and a place.  I personally dont enjoy sitting on the beach when there are naked bodies all around thats why I dont go to the North end of the beach and thats my choice.

Think everyone wants to live and let live, appreciate there are places where certain things are more acceptable than others and take other peoples feelings into consideration.  If I was on the beach and a naturist came onto the main beach I would have to say something would not want Calum or my other grandchildren put into a position where they are embarassed and if they had gone onto the main beach naked it was obviously to be watched.

Jill
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: TerryW on September 02, 2011, 08:47:17 AM
Quote
Oh Im hoping the tide comes back in!! or we will all be getting on that Bus ride again
Ang

I was thinking that myself Ang, a drop of cold sea water does tend to dampen things down :-)

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Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Mick and Jill on September 02, 2011, 10:24:35 AM
Terry love it.

Don't think this topic will have the reaction of the others as no one is arguing that I can see.

Think its brill that there is the nudist north beach for people who enjoy that kind of thing

Jill x
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: TerryW on September 02, 2011, 12:18:51 PM
This was rather hurried but I hope it brings a few smiles. You need the volume turned up a bit

Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: patrickjohn on September 02, 2011, 01:10:57 PM
Nice one, Terry.  We really need a 'Like' button on the forum.  Mind you we'd be pressing it all the time for your contributions!
Regards
PJ
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Jo Wissett on September 02, 2011, 01:53:06 PM
Eeeh I wish I was there now topping up my tan..
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Paul D on September 02, 2011, 03:53:56 PM
Seems like this topic has stirred peoples` feelings!
  Let me say from the start, I totally agree there is no need for people to encroach on the main part of the beach, if they strip off.  There is plenty of room at the north end.
 I am agreeing with you all here - perhaps some have forgotten.

And as for being naive about being watched, then, yes, people do look - we wouldn`t be human otherwise. But to go there to BE watched..... don`t think so.


As has been said, many wander along to have a walk, and we have no, problem with that - so I do not believe the north end is only for naturists.
 
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: NicandJohn on September 02, 2011, 05:38:29 PM
My feeling is that those wearing clothes have the right to be anywhere, whilst those not wearing anything are bending the rules "baring" in mind that there are no legal nudist beaches in corfu.
Regarding being watched, the only time I've ever felt uncomfortable on the beach was when my wife left me alone for a half hour and a naked chap came over to talk to me. I wasn't sure whether he fancied me or was just being friendly but I remember I kept saying "my missus will be back in a minute.....".
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Mick and Jill on September 02, 2011, 08:29:56 PM
ha ha ha John love it lol.
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Ang on September 02, 2011, 08:53:56 PM
Terry - LOVDED IT
John - I needed a belly larf and your post provided just that.
Ang - ITS FRRIDAY YEAHHHH
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Atalanta on September 03, 2011, 11:38:43 AM
John - Thanks for sharing your "uncomfortable" moment :-) I'm sure it was a very long half hour waiting for Nic to come back!

It did make me laugh and I was glad that at least one person of the male gender appreciates what it can be like to feel a hint of unwelcome attention.

I wish we lived in an ideal world were everyone's motives were transparent but sometimes we do get caught out.

There was one time in Fuerteventura  when a German gentleman was sunbathing nude and was constantly in need of "re-adjustment". My husband went over and had a friendly word which I think was "Nein" if I remember rightly. He went for a nice dip in the sea and came back refreshed.

Nobody wants to feel uncomfortable on the beach. And YES I have been skinny dipping - but not by the Kaloudis steps at 10 o'clock in the morning as the tour bus rolls in :-)
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: vivian on September 04, 2011, 11:45:26 AM
Hahaa, OK if we are being fully honest the first day I went on a nudist beach as I have already said was on a tiny beach in England and yes although it changed me life, I was uncomforable when a young man came acoss to ask me the time, there I was sat there naked with him stood in front of me, trying to concerntrate on my watch. I wont ever forget it because he must have known and just said "well my dear you are now iniated" Pete laughed out loud. Viv
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Eggy on September 04, 2011, 07:20:50 PM
Viv

I only have 2 memories of the North Beach.

1. When I asked someone:-
"Can I take a picture of you in the nude"
"I would prefer it if you keep your clothes on" she said.

2. When I asked someone:-
"Have you got the time?"
"If you have the money" - she said.

"I've only got a euro" says I
"I've got change" says she

The above means nothing, except if it makes you smile, then it means a lot!

Negg
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: justphil on September 04, 2011, 07:36:43 PM
lmao Neill. Cheaper than Mythos and change as well. Wouldn't suit me - that bit is sorted - these days I prefer the Mythos, but everybody knows that already. "Mythos, please?" Just ask Thomas at Graziella.

Can't wait to be back in Octomber.....

Phil
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: patrickjohn on September 04, 2011, 07:48:51 PM
Roll on Octomber Phil
PJ
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: justphil on September 04, 2011, 08:07:32 PM
Thank you PJ for seeing that it wasn't a typo. Hoping that you and Julia have as special a time as Jen and I did in Arillas this July. Thinking of yous both. Kaloudis I bet. Give Billy and Billy our apologies that we didn't have time to get there in July. Will see them soon.

Phil
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: vivian on September 04, 2011, 08:09:02 PM
Eggy, your quipps always make me smile.
 (http://bestsmileys.com/blushing/3.gif)
A smile is a curved line that straighens every thing out.
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: patrickjohn on September 04, 2011, 09:43:00 PM
Yes Viv, we need all the smiles we can get.
Phil - thanks for the good wishes - we've just finished packing our bags ready for the off to Robin Hood Airport.  We'll remember you both to the two Billys and tell them to expect you in Octomber.
Regards
PJ
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Anne on September 04, 2011, 11:50:42 PM
Eggy - your ickle jokes made me smile - thanks xxxxxxx

Viv - A smile is a curved line that straighens every thing out. - just love that saying - must remember it xx
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: ianh on November 07, 2011, 03:37:57 PM
my wife and I were in arrilas the first week of june this year,the first few days we were the only people on the north beach ,this was due to high tides and a fair wade to get to the nude part,on the last two days a lot of germans arrived and they were all nude from the bottom of the steps,so it looks like they dont like getting wet and dont seem to worry about upsetting anyone else we also tried the south beach that was empy aswell. as someone once said stay nude it aint rude [,but only on the nude beach]hope to be back 4 june next year
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: patrickjohn on November 07, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
Glad you and your wife, Ian, enjoyed the delights of both the north & south beaches.
In September there was very little wading, if any, needed and the north beach was quite broad.  Almost everyone waited until they reached the little headland before completely disrobing so we witnessed no embarrasing incidents.
Good wishes for next June, sadly Julia and I will have to wait for our regular September fortnight.
All the best
PJ
Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: Paul D on February 15, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
Just read through this thread again - some interesting opinions were given. Mostly I agreed with them.
 It just makes me wonder how the naked human body can invoke so many emotions, be they positive or negative. Dare I say it, mostly negative.
 Made me smile where people gave opinions as to whether they`d feel comfortable on north beach in front of strangers or friends.  In front of friends seemed to be a no-no.  But over the years, aren`t these strangers now friends? And also, being nude with their offspring seems a bit of an issue. Embarrassment the cause of any discomfort. But if nudity itself is made into an issue, then won`t it always be an embarrassment?

 The thread is about the expansion of the nudist beach and I agree, we must respect its boundaries - there is room for all.
 
Yammas,  Paul

 















Title: Re: Expansion of nudist beach
Post by: dimitris on February 15, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
Dear paul,
 this thread has been left open and unanswered  since 2011...  the situation is not anymore the same in Arillas. Please allow me to lock this thread.